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Post by stevan on Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:45 am

Nedavno, u razmeni fajlova, sa jednim poznanikom, dobio sam trace od Promet-a. Izgleda vrlo dobro uradjeno i cisto! Rado bih probao da ga napravim.Medjutim nemam semu i ima jos nekih manjih nejasnoca. Osim toga zanima me inace koliko je Promet dobar? Imao sam 1220B koji ima skoro istu kutiju kao i Promet.1220B je bio jako upotrebljiv detektor. Medjutim ovaj Promet mi deluje malo prostije od 1220B. Nema veze...ako neko ima iskustva sa njim neka napise ovde kakav je to detektor.
Ali ne verzija 2 i 3...izgleda da je ovo verzija 1, prostija.
Dosta sam radio motion detektora. Svi oni rade slicno, sa mnjim razlikama. Vreme je da se napravi jedan non motion detektor. Secam se da sam sa 1220B imao jako uspesne sezone, iako je taj detektor iz davnjasnjih vremena i pomalo zastareo. Ipak non motion detektori imaju posebnu vrednost ako se dobro savlada rad sa njima. Dakle...ima li neko da potpomogne ovu temu?









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Re: Cscope Promet

Post by stevan on Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:46 am

TRANZISTORI

T1= BC214B PNP
T2= BC214B PNP
T3= BC184B NPN
T4= BC214B PNP
T5= J113, N-FET
T6= J113, N-FET
T7= J113, N-FET
T8= BC184B NPN
T9= BC184B NPN
T10= BC184B NPN
T11= BC214B PNP
T12= BFR60 PNP


BC214B PNP X 4
BC184B NPN X 4
J113 N-FET X 3
BFR60 X 1




INTEGRALCI

IC1= CD4046BE
IC2= CD4017BE
IC3= MC14024BCP
IC4= CD4013BE
IC5= CA3130E
IC6= LM392N
IC7= CD4066BE
IC8= LM358N
IC9= CA3140E
IC10= CA3140E
IC11= CA3140E
IC12= 78L05


4013 X 1
4017 X 1
4024 X 1
4046 X 1
4066 X 1
CD3130E X 1
CD3140E X 3
LM358N X 1
LM392N X 1
78L05 X 1




DIODE

D1= 1N4148
D2= 1N4148
D3= 1N4148
D4= 1N4148
D5= 1N4148
D6= 1N4148
D7= 1N4148
D8= 1N4148
D9= 4V7/500mW


1N4148 X 8
4V7/500mW X 1




KONDEZATORI

C1= 62pF STIROFLEKS
C2= NEMA
C3= 70pF TRIMER YELLOW
C4= 150pF STIROFLEKS
C5= 1000pF STIROFLEKS
C6= 1nF KERAMIK
C7= 150pF STIROFLEKS
C8= 1nF KERAMIK
C9= 20pF STIROFLEKS
C10= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C11= 50pF STIROFLEKS
C12= 1nF KERAMIK
C13= 2,2/63 MMKO EVOX
C14= 1nF KERAMIK
C15= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C16= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C17= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C18= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C19= 50pF STIROFLEKS
C20= 70pF TRIMER YELLOW
C21= 2,2/63 MMKO EVOX
C22= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C23= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C24= 1nF KERAMIK
C25= 1000pF STIROFLEKS
C26= 50pF STIROFLEKS
C27= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C28= 0,1/100 MMKO EVOX
C29= 10/16 ELEKTROLIT
C30= 10/16 ELEKTROLIT
C31= 220/25 ELEKTROLIT
C32= 115pF STIROFLEKS NA TX0 I TXD

STIROFLEX

20pF X 1
50pF X 3
62pF X 1
115pF X 1
150pF X 2
1000pF X 2



BLOK MMKO EVOX CB400 10mm

0,1/100 X 9



BLOK MMKO EVOX CB600 15mm

2,2/63 X 2



KRAMICKI AXIAL R400

1nF X 5


ELKO

10/16 X 2
220/25 X 1

TRIMER KONDEZATORI

70pF YELLOW X 2





OTPORNICI

R1= 120R
R2= 100K TRIMER KERAMIK
R3= 120R
R4= 120K
R5= 47K TRIMER KERAMIK
R6= 470R
R7= 10K
R8= 470K
R9= 120K
R10= 22K
R11= 51K
R12= 20K
R13= 47K TRIMER KERAMIK
R14= 100K
R15= 10K
R16= 220K 2%
R17= 1M
R18= 4K7
R19= 100K
R20= 100K
R21= 22K
R22= 100K
R23= KRATKOSPOJNIK
R24= 47K
R25= 22K LIN A POTENCIOMETAR
R26= 100K
R27= 15K
R28= 10K
R29= 15K
R30= 4K7
R31= 22K 2%
R32= 10K
R33= 1K
R34= 22K
R35= 1K
R36= 1M
R37= 12K
R38= 100K
R39= 560K
R40= 100K TRIMER
R41= 47K
R42= 47K
R43= 470K
R44= 470K
R45= 1M
R46= 120R
R47= 47K
R48= 100K
R49= 1M
R50= 33K
R51= 22K
R52= 39K
R53= 4K7
R54= 10K
R55= 2K4
R56= 1K
R57= 100K
R58= 330K
R59= 750K
R60= 22K LIN A POTENCIOMETAR SA PREKIDACEM
R61= 470R
R62= 4K7
R63= 10K TRIMER
R64= 4K7
R65= 2K2 TRIMER
R66= 470R
R67= 1K
R68= 100K
R69= 20K
R70= 120R
R71= 27K
R72= 4K7
R73= 4K7
R74= 1K
R75= 1K
R76= 47K
R77= 47K
R78= 1K5
R79= 4K7


1/4W 5%

120R X 4
470R X 3
1K X 6
1K5 X 1
2K4 X 1
4K7 X 8
10K X 5
12K X 1
15K X 2
20K X 2
22K X 4
22K X 1 2%
33K X 1
39K X 1
47K X 6
51K X 1
100K X 9
120K X 2
750K X 1
220K X 1 2%
330K X 1
470K X 3
560K X 1
750K X 1
1M X 4

TRIMERI PIHER LEZECI 10X5

2K2 X 1
10K X 1
47K X 2
100K X 2

POTENCIOMETRI

22K LIN A X 1
22K LIN A X 1 PREKIDAC

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Cscope Promet

Post by eugene51 on Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:58 am

There is a Csope promet schematic Available but it is a big 1.24 mb BMP file . I could not post it here. Also is there a Promet1 and a Promet3 or just a Promet3 ??.................Is this the right Detector Photo????Thanks.....Eugene

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Re: Cscope Promet

Post by Guest on Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:14 am

eugene51 wrote:There is a Csope promet schematic Available but it is a big 1.24 mb BMP file . I could not post it here. Also is there a Promet1 and a Promet3 or just a Promet3 ??.................Is this the right Detector Photo????Thanks.....Eugene


Hi! EUGENE

Do you have some information about the performance this detector on field??
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Cscope Promet

Post by eugene51 on Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:47 am

The Cscope Promet was 19 khz . With a 8 inch search-coil Air test of u.s. quarter was 14 inches. Here is one more photo.....Eugene

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Re: Cscope Promet

Post by stevan on Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:06 am

Yes, it is Promet 1. I need that schematic. I already have Promet 3 shematic.
Regards!
P.S.
BTW..if you have Promet 1 schematic please send me mail;
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Re: Cscope Promet

Post by tragac on Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:11 am

Hmmmm....malo sumnjam da je ovaj raspored i spisak elemenata od ovog Prometa.Pogledajte ovaj promet ima 3 potenciometra a na spisku elemenata su 2.Možda spisak nije kompletan?Ili je ovo drugi aparat?
Pozdrav.

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CSCOPE PROMET

Post by eugene51 on Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:15 pm

Still not a schematic yet , for the CSCOPE Promet-1 !!! But someone neeed's bad a schematic of Promet-3 . And I can not remember where I saw the Schematic , I thought I had a Copy , but I can not find it !!!! "Please" if someone knows the link to where the Promet-3 schematic is , let us know.....It was a 1.3 mega-byte file....Thank-You........Eugene.

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CSCOPE PROMET

Post by eugene51 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:51 am

I found the 1.24 mb file of Promet3 . But , We still do not have the "Original" Promet 1 , I know someone out there has this Schematic !!!!! The field test of Promet 1 , on a u.s. quarter was 9 inches with discrimination , so not a Machine to laugh at !!!!! It is a Very Good Detector !!!!!.................................Eugene

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CSCOPE PROMET

Post by eugene51 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:29 am

Hello , Looking at this post again , there is enough information to build this Detector . We know the TX frequency and have all the capacitor values , so inductance and Coil "DATA" can be calculated . Then final test the detector and draw a final Schematic. So , all that is needed is Extra Part's , and some free Time Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Some one can make a nice Detector from this CSCOPE information...........Eugene

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Re: Cscope Promet

Post by stevan on Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:15 am

I agree Very Happy

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